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Kat and Mike meet with Ty Pennington and talk about his new HGTV show, Ty Breaker. On the show, Ty and a guest designer help families decide if they should renovate their home or move.

Ty explains that the show is called Ty Breaker because there's always one thing — one design element — that sways the family on if they are going to stay in their home or not. He is a big advocate for renovating or changing what you have rather than moving. “I think you can change anything you are in,” says Ty. “When you have lived in something for so long, you can usually only see it as one thing. That’s the beauty of a designer. There is always a way to make it work.”

Ty talks about how he enjoys working with the line-up of guest designers on Ty Breaker including Sabrina Soto, Alison Victoria and Grace Mitchell. And if one new show with HGTV pros wasn’t enough, Ty is also hosting and refereeing the second season of Rock the Block. In that competition show, four teams of top HGTV talent are given identical houses and six weeks to do a complete overhaul.

Kat tells Ty about how she had a friend in middle school whose home was renovated on an episode of Extreme Home Makeover. Kat confesses she drives by that house often and always thinks about Ty. Even though it was over 10 years ago, Ty totally remembers the makeover and the details about how they designed the friend's bedroom. Ty then goes on to talk about how rewarding it was to work on that show and he's so glad that it has gotten a reboot.

Defend the Trend: Murals — Yes or No?

In our Defend the Trend segment, Kat and Mike ask if murals are making a comeback. Ty says he’s a fan because they can really make a room stand out and give it a large wow factor. He goes on to suggest trying a two-tone or monochromatic design if you’re afraid of a mural being too overwhelming.

HGTV to the Rescue

A listener writes in and tells how she can’t decide whether to stay in her small, outgrown house in a really good neighborhood or move to a bigger house in a less-expensive area. Steve and Leanne Ford weigh in. Steve suggests bunk beds, in white of course (the Fords' signature color). And Leanne says if you really like the neighborhood, stay put. But she reminds the listener that sometimes the best location is all about the school district.